_Odoscer De Flanders ______________________________ | (0810 - 0864) _BAUDOUIN I "Iron Arm" Of Flanders ______________|___________________________________________________ | (0837 - 0879) _Baldwin II "the Bald" Fleming _| | (.... - 0918) m 0884 | | | _KARL II (Charles) "The Bald", Holy Roman Emperor _+ | | | (0823 - 0877) m 0842 | |_JUDITH Queen Of Brittany _______________________|_ERMENTRUDE (Hermentrude) of Orleans ______________ | (0843 - 0870) (0830 - 0869) _Adalolf THEROUANNE Count De Boulogne _| | (0893 - 0933) | | | _AETHELWULF King Of Kent & Wessex _________________ | | | (0806 - ....) m 0830 | | _ALFRED "The Great" King Of England _____________|_OSBURGA Von Wessex _______________________________ | | | (0848 - ....) m 0868 (0810 - 0846) | |_ELFRIDAM of England ___________| | (0869 - 0918) m 0884 | | | _AETHELRED "Mucel" Ealdorman Earl Of The Gaini ____ | | | (0823 - 0866) m 0845 | |_EALHSWITH (Ealswith Alswitha) Queen Of England _|_EADBUGH Lady Of Mercia ___________________________ | (.... - 0905) m 0868 (0817 - 0904) | |--Richwara of Boulogne | (0900 - 0963) | ___________________________________________________ | | | _________________________________________________|___________________________________________________ | | | ________________________________| | | | | | | ___________________________________________________ | | | | | | |_________________________________________________|___________________________________________________ | | |_Mahaut de Crequy _____________________| (0895 - ....) | | ___________________________________________________ | | | _________________________________________________|___________________________________________________ | | |________________________________| | | ___________________________________________________ | | |_________________________________________________|___________________________________________________
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There seems to be a majority of sources that indicate that she was sister, not daughter of Fulk; and possibly, somehow, a niece of Gilbert, Count of Brionne. I will stick with Turton, even though he is somewhat unreliable, because the other pedigrees don't seem very clear (and reliable) to me either.
!Following is a post-em from Curt Hofemann giving, conflicting informationon Gunnora:
First, it's Aunou, not Anjou . . .
Flwg are my notes:
parents: Gonnor (Gunnor) was the daughter of Baldric the Teuton, and a niece of Gilbert, Count of Brionne. [Ref: McBride2 citing Burke's p118-120, CP VI p498-503, Wurts p47-70], father: Baudri "the German", father of Nicholas de Bacqueville, Fulk de Aunou, Robert de Courcy, andGunnor [Ref: TAF 21 Aug 2000 citing: Keats-Rohan "Domesday Book and the Malets: Patrimony and the Private Histories of Public Lives" in *Nottingham Medieval Studies* xli (1997), 18] Gunnora, sister of Fulk deAunou is not daughter of Osmund, but of Baudri. [Ref: TAF 26 Aug 2000] Fulk d'Aunou had a sister Gunnor [Ref: TAF: 21 Aug 2000]
Gilbert's wife, Gonnor (Gunnor) was the daughter of Baldric the Teuton, and a niece of Gilbert, Count of Brionne. [Ref:McBride2 citing Burke's p118-120, CP VI p498-503, Wurtsp47-70]
She (Elisabeth Van Houts) also argues that Robert confused things, that it was Baudri "the German", father of Nicholas de Bacqueville, Fulk de Aunou, Robert de Courcy, and Gunnor wife of Gilbert Crispin, who married the niece of Duchess Gunnor, while it was Nicholas's wife, Gertrude, who was niece of Gilbert of Brionne. [Ref: TAF 21 Aug2000 citing: Keats-Rohan "Domesday Book and the Malets: Patrimony and the Private Histories of Public Lives" in *Nottingham Medieval Studies* xli(1997), 18] note: this implies the Fulkwas Gunnora's brother, not father...Curt
While there is extensive debate, it is not generally felt (sic) that Fulk d'Aunou, son of Baudri the German is the same as Fulk "de Alneio", son of Osmund of Centemvilliers. (For example, Wace appears to distinguish the two toponyms.) Thus Gunnora, sister of Fulk de Aunou is not daughter of Osmund, but of Baudri. Likewise Gunnorade Aunou married, not Gilbert de Brionne, but Gilbert Crispin. Gilbert de Brionne comes into play as supposed uncle of Baudri's wife, although this seems chronologically impossible... [Ref: TAF 26 Aug 2000]
Based on the fact that Fulk d'Aunou had a sister Gunnor, Keats-Rohan has suggested that these two somehow got switched, and that it was Baldric who married the Gunnorid, while Nicholas married Gilbert's niece. This works better chronologically, since Gilbert de Brionne was two generations after Gunnor, his niece three and Nicholas four, while the wife of Nicholas would be just one, or perhaps two generation removed from Gunnor. Reversing them as Keats-Rohan suggests makes the wife four, and the husband three or four (because some of the nieces appear to have been grand nieces). [Ref: TAF: 21 Aug 2000]
Regards,
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_Thomas H. Holcomb _____________+ | (1526 - ....) _Gilbert Holcomb ____________|_Margaret Trenthurffe __________ | (1565 - 1633) m 1600 (1535 - 1576) _Thomas Holcomb _____| | (.... - 1657) m 1634| | | _Peter De Courtenay ____________+ | | | (1536 - 1606) m 1554 | |_Anne De Courtenay __________|_Katherin (Catherine) Reskimer _ | (1573 - 1642) m 1600 (1541 - ....) _Nathaniel Holcomb __| | (1648 - 1739) m 1669| | | ________________________________ | | | | | _Thomas Ferguson ____________|________________________________ | | | (1584 - ....) | |_ELIZABETH Ferguson _| | (.... - 1679) m 1634| | | ________________________________ | | | | |_ELIZABETH __________________|________________________________ | (1586 - ....) | |--Margaret Holcomb | (1670 - ....) | _Thomas Bliss __________________ | | (.... - 1636) m 1582 | _Thomas Bliss _______________|________________________________ | | (1585 - 1649) m 1614 | _Nathaniel Bliss ____| | | (1622 - 1654) m 1646| | | | _John Hulines __________________+ | | | | (1565 - 1639) m 1588 | | |_MARGARET Lawerence Hulines _|_Margaret Lawrence _____________ | | (1595 - 1684) m 1614 (1559 - 1621) |_Mary Bliss _________| (1651 - ....) m 1669| | ________________________________ | | | _Samuel Chapin ______________|________________________________ | | (1598 - 1675) m 1622 |_Catherine Chapin ___| (1630 - 1711) m 1646| | ________________________________ | | |_Cicely Penney ______________|________________________________ (1600 - 1682) m 1622
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_George Wingfield ____+ | _Richard Wingfield __|_Ratcliffe Gerrard ___ | (.... - 1634) _Edward Wingfield __________________| | (.... - 1638) | | | _Teige O'Brien _______ | | | (.... - 1578) | |_Honora O'Brien _____|_Mor O'Brien _________ | _Lewis Wingfield ____| | (.... - 1673) | | | _Henry Cromwell ______+ | | | (1538 - 1604) m 1560 | | _Edward Cromwell ____|_Mary Paulet _________ | | | (1560 - 1607) m 1593 (1542 - 1592) | |_Anne Cromwell _____________________| | (.... - 1636) | | | _William Repps _______ | | | (1538 - ....) | |_Frances Rugge ______|_Thomasine Townshend _ | (1562 - 1631) m 1593 (1540 - ....) | |--Richard Wingfield | | ______________________ | | | _____________________|______________________ | | | _Paul Gore, 1st Bart of Manor Gore _| | | (.... - 1629) | | | | ______________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|______________________ | | |_Sidney Gore ________| | | ______________________ | | | _____________________|______________________ | | |_Isabella Wickliffe ________________| | | ______________________ | | |_____________________|______________________
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