_Uhtred Of Tyndale __
| (1075 - 1150) m 1109
_John De Joinville __|_Bethoc Of Scotland _
| (1115 - 1205) m 1149 (1080 - 1160)
_Gilbert De Joinville _|
| (1149 - 1230) |
| | _____________________
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| |_____________________|_____________________
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_Thomas De Johnstone _|
| (1165 - 1250) |
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|--Gilbert De Johnston
| (1249 - 1271)
| _____________________
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| | |_____________________|_____________________
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|______________________|
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| _____________________
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| _____________________|_____________________
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|_______________________|
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| _____________________
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|_____________________|_____________________
_Richard Singletary _
| (1540 - 1570)
_Francis Singletary _|_____________________
| (1559 - 1617) m 1584
_Richard Singletary _|
| (1585 - 1687) |
| | _____________________
| | |
| |_Agnes Unknown ______|_____________________
| (1563 - 1617) m 1584
_Jonathan Singletary _|
| (1639 - 1724) m 1659 |
| | _____________________
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| | _____________________|_____________________
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| |_Lydia Downham ______|
| (1605 - 1639) |
| | _____________________
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| |_____________________|_____________________
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|--Benjamin Dunham
| (1681 - 1715)
| _____________________
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| _John Bloomfield ____|_____________________
| | (1590 - 1640)
| _Thomas Bloomfield __|
| | (1617 - 1684) m 1640|
| | | _Basil Becon ________
| | | | (1570 - 1650)
| | |_Elizabeth Becon ____|_____________________
| | (1593 - 1680)
|_Mary Bloomfield _____|
(1642 - 1705) m 1659 |
| _____________________
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| _Edward Waters ______|_____________________
| | (1560 - 1620) m 1613
|_Mary Withers _______|
(1613 - 1686) m 1640|
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|_Alice Burton _______|_____________________
(1590 - 1660) m 1613
_William de Lindsay of Ercildum and Crawford, Baron of Luffness, Justicia_+
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_William de Lindsay of Luffness____|_Aleanora Unknown ________________________________________________________
| (.... - 1236)
_David de Lindsay of Luffness_________________|
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| | __________________________________________________________________________
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| |_Avice de Lancaster _______________|__________________________________________________________________________
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_David De Lindsay Regent Of Scotland_|
| (1235 - 1279) m 1266 |
| | __________________________________________________________________________
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| |_Unknown Crawford ____________________________|
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|--Duncan De Lindsay Sir
| (1271 - ....)
| _Walter de Lindsay Constable of Berwick, Justiciar, lord of Lamberton_____+
| | (.... - 1221)
| _William de Lindsay of Lamberton___|__________________________________________________________________________
| |
| _Walter de Lindsay of Lamberton and Moleswort_|
| | (.... - 1271) |
| | | __________________________________________________________________________
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| | |_Alice de Lancaster of Windermere _|__________________________________________________________________________
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|_Margaret De Lindsay ________________|
(1247 - 1274) m 1266 |
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|_Christian Unknown ___________________________|
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Eldridge, D'Aiutolo
______________________________________
|
_Aubri Count of Gatinais ________________________|______________________________________
| (0950 - 0990)
_Geoffroy I "Ferreol" Count of Gatinais __|
| (0970 - 1000) m 0999 |
| | ______________________________________
| | |
| |_________________________________________________|______________________________________
|
_Geoffrey II "Ferreol" Count of Gatinois _|
| (1000 - 1046) m 1035 |
| | _Letald de Macon _____________________
| | | (0900 - ....)
| | _Alberic II Count of Macon ______________________|_ADELAIDE De Challons, Burgundy ______
| | | (0953 - 0981) (0905 - 0987)
| |_Beatrix (or Beatrice) de Macon __________|
| (0975 - ....) m 0999 |
| | _Renaud Raimond De Roucy _____________+
| | | m 0945
| |_Ermentrude (Irmtrude) De Roucy _________________|_Alberade De Lorraine ________________
| (0930 - ....)
|
|--Ives (Ivo) de Taillebois
| (1036 - 1094)
| _Foulques II "Le Bon" Comte D'anjou __+
| | (0909 - 0958)
| _GEOFFREY I Grisconelle "Grisegonnelle" D'Anjou _|_Gerberge (Gerberga) Du Maine ________
| | (0958 - 0987) (0913 - ....)
| _Foulques III (Fulk) "the Black" D'Anjou _|
| | (0967 - 1040) m 1000 |
| | | _Robert Of Meux Of Troyes Vermandois _+
| | | | (0920 - ....)
| | |_Adelaide De Vermandois _________________________|_ADELAIDE De Challons, Burgundy ______
| | (.... - 0976) (0905 - 0987)
|_Ermangarde (Hermengarde) D'Anjou ________|
m 1035 |
| ______________________________________
| |
| _________________________________________________|______________________________________
| |
|_Lorraine Hildegarde (de Metz) D'Anjou ___|
(0964 - 1046) m 1000 |
| ______________________________________
| |
|_________________________________________________|______________________________________
[6754]
Came with William the Conqueror. In 1092 (shortly before his death)William II Rufus drove the Scots from the Lake District and gave Kendalto Ivo de Taillebois, whose descendants maintained an interest in thetown until the nineteenth century.
No published source that I have gives parents for Ives/Ivo. WorldConnect/rootsweb was the source of Gatinais/Anjou as parents, and I haveseen references in soc.genealogy.medieval as "of Anjou" which fits withhis mother. The book "Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families" does give areliable account of his origins in Cristot, Calvados,Normandy, althoughthat is not where he was necessarily born, and he may have held otherlands than just Cristot.
The following is a post to SGM, 22 Oct 2001, by Rosie Bevan (givesdetails of Ivo's claim to Kendal):
From: Rosie Bevan (cbevan@paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Taillebois [was Gundred de Warenne, Countess of Warwick)
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2001-10-22 17:57:13 PST
Yes, I agree in the normal course of events, it was very unusual for aNorman to name a son by an English name. On the face of it, this familyappears to have been a mix of Norman, Saxon and Scandinavian and blood.The barony of Kendal was granted to Ivo de Taillebois, who died about1089, by William Rufus and during the reign of Henry I it passed to Ketelson of Eldred, lord of Workington. Ketel was followed by his son Gilbertand Gilbert by his son William of Lancaster. Dugdale in Monasticon [v.5,p.249] claims that William was called Taillebois and by permission fromthe king (Henry II) changed his name to Lancaster. [Sanders p.56]. Why hewould need permission, I'm not sure. Ketel also had a son Orm which Ithink is also a Scandinavian name. I think it is important to rememberthat this was at the northern tip of the Norman empire in England whereNorman influence and culture was not initially quite so important locallyand the north of England has always had a different culture andperspective from the south. Cumberland was not even covered in theDomesday Book.
Whether there is a genetic link between Ivo de Taillebois and Eldred isnot absolutely clear but for Eldred to have been born to Ivo, he (Ivo)would have had to have married a very high status Saxon lady (hismarriage to Countess Lucy was evidently contracted late in life). ForEldred to have had a son with a Norwegian name he would have had to havemarried a high status Norwegian lady. Ketel appears to have maried aNorman lady although Orm, Ketel's son, was reputedly married to Gunnildda. of Gospatric and granddaughter of Harold II. I am no expert on thisperiod (and it probably shows) so would appreciate informed comment fromsomeone who has studied
this line.
Cheers
Rosie
Note: I at one time had Eldred as son of Ivo de Taillebois, but have subsequently changed it based on later information to his son Ketel(Chetell) marrying a daughter of Ivo, thus explaining the relationship.
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The following information on Ivo was supplied in a post-em by CurtHofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com:
Not much to hang your hat on, but...
Ivo de Talboys. Also called 'cut-bush'. Married Lucy. In charge of siegeof Hereward the Wake at Ely, 1069. Steward to William II. Holdings inLincs. and Norfolk.
[Ref: Domesday Online: http://www.domesdaybook.co.uk/index.html]
The Lancasters are said to be descendants of Ivo de Taillebois and asWilliam was governor of Lancaster Castle assumed the name accordingly.[Stemma Ivonis de Tayleboyse (ex registro S. Mar Ebor New Monast iii 553)Ivo is stated to have had issue Elthred, the father of Ketel, the fatherof Gilbert, father of Wm of Lancaster who married Gundreda Countess ofWarwick. Ketellus filius Elredi was donor of various property to theAbbey of St Mary, York. [Ref: Rosie Bevan 21 Oct 2001 citing TheTopographer and Genealogist 1846 p15] note: "is stated" is usually asubtle reference to a difference of opinion amongst scholars... Curt
Regards,
Curt
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[S259]
The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
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The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968
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Ancestral Roots Of Sixty Colonists Who Came To New Englan d Between 1623 And 1650
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Ancestral Roots Of Sixty Colonists Who Came To New Englan d Between 1623 And 1650
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The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, by Lewis C Loyd, 1999
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Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
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