Living

[10941]

____ - ____

Father: Living
Mother: Living

Family 1 : Living

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                      |        
 _Living______________|
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|                     |   __|__
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|                     |__|
|                        |
|                        |   __
|                        |  |  
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|--Living
|  
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|                         __|__
|                        |     
|                      __|
|                     |  |
|                     |  |   __
|                     |  |  |  
|                     |  |__|__
|                     |        
|_Living______________|
                      |
                      |      __
                      |     |  
                      |   __|__
                      |  |     
                      |__|
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[10941] living - details excluded

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Living

[11905]

____ - ____

Father: Ralph Fowler
Mother: Beverly Eneking


                                                                   ______________________
                                                                  |                      
                                             _____________________|______________________
                                            |                                            
                       _Harry Fowler _______|
                      | (.... - 1977) m 1928|
                      |                     |                      ______________________
                      |                     |                     |                      
                      |                     |_____________________|______________________
                      |                                                                  
 _Ralph Fowler _______|
| (1941 - 1971) m 1961|
|                     |                                            ______________________
|                     |                                           |                      
|                     |                      _Leo Mohringer ______|______________________
|                     |                     |  m 1899                                    
|                     |_Mildred Mohringer __|
|                       (1908 - 1977) m 1928|
|                                           |                      _Samuel Henry Sawyer _+
|                                           |                     | (1854 - 1938) m 1877 
|                                           |_Lela May Sawyer ____|_Margaret J Hale _____
|                                             (1878 - 1925) m 1899  (1857 - ....)        
|
|--Living
|  
|                                                                  ______________________
|                                                                 |                      
|                                            _____________________|______________________
|                                           |                                            
|                      _____________________|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |                      ______________________
|                     |                     |                     |                      
|                     |                     |_____________________|______________________
|                     |                                                                  
|_Beverly Eneking ____|
   m 1961             |
                      |                                            ______________________
                      |                                           |                      
                      |                      _____________________|______________________
                      |                     |                                            
                      |_____________________|
                                            |
                                            |                      ______________________
                                            |                     |                      
                                            |_____________________|______________________
                                                                                         

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[11905] living - details excluded

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Lucy Bellamy

1776 - ____

Father: John Bellamy
Mother: Susan Rowe


                                                __
                                               |  
                                             __|__
                                            |     
                       _John Bellomy _______|
                      | (1700 - 1784)       |
                      |                     |   __
                      |                     |  |  
                      |                     |__|__
                      |                           
 _John Bellamy _______|
| (1735 - 1815) m 1768|
|                     |                         __
|                     |                        |  
|                     |                      __|__
|                     |                     |     
|                     |_Mary Hudson ________|
|                       (1712 - 1784)       |
|                                           |   __
|                                           |  |  
|                                           |__|__
|                                                 
|
|--Lucy Bellamy 
|  (1776 - ....)
|                                               __
|                                              |  
|                                            __|__
|                                           |     
|                      _William Roe ________|
|                     | (1692 - 1753)       |
|                     |                     |   __
|                     |                     |  |  
|                     |                     |__|__
|                     |                           
|_Susan Rowe _________|
  (1738 - 1815) m 1768|
                      |                         __
                      |                        |  
                      |                      __|__
                      |                     |     
                      |_Lucy Johnson _______|
                        (1709 - 1789)       |
                                            |   __
                                            |  |  
                                            |__|__
                                                  

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Marietta Chandler

3 Jul 1843 - 17 Jun 1930

Father: Edward B. Chandler
Mother: Hannah Shields

Family 1 : Abram Levis Marshall
  1.  Jane Chandler Marshall
  2.  Mary Graves Marshall
  3. +Edward Chandler Marshall
  4. +Joseph Chandler Marshall M.d.

                             __
                            |  
                          __|__
                         |     
                       __|
                      |  |
                      |  |   __
                      |  |  |  
                      |  |__|__
                      |        
 _Edward B. Chandler _|
|                     |
|                     |      __
|                     |     |  
|                     |   __|__
|                     |  |     
|                     |__|
|                        |
|                        |   __
|                        |  |  
|                        |__|__
|                              
|
|--Marietta Chandler 
|  (1843 - 1930)
|                            __
|                           |  
|                         __|__
|                        |     
|                      __|
|                     |  |
|                     |  |   __
|                     |  |  |  
|                     |  |__|__
|                     |        
|_Hannah Shields _____|
                      |
                      |      __
                      |     |  
                      |   __|__
                      |  |     
                      |__|
                         |
                         |   __
                         |  |  
                         |__|__
                               

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Elizabeth Clark

[28323]

____ - ABT 1760

Father: Micajah Clark
Mother: Sally Ann Moorman


                                                                   _____________________
                                                                  |                     
                                             _____________________|_____________________
                                            |                                           
                       _Michael Clarke _____|
                      | (1629 - 1678) m 1652|
                      |                     |                      _____________________
                      |                     |                     |                     
                      |                     |_____________________|_____________________
                      |                                                                 
 _Micajah Clark ______|
| (1659 - 1706) m 1680|
|                     |                                            _____________________
|                     |                                           |                     
|                     |                      _____________________|_____________________
|                     |                     |                                           
|                     |_Margaret Unknown ___|
|                       (1633 - 1689) m 1652|
|                                           |                      _____________________
|                                           |                     |                     
|                                           |_____________________|_____________________
|                                                                                       
|
|--Elizabeth Clark 
|  (.... - 1760)
|                                                                  _____________________
|                                                                 |                     
|                                            _Thomas Moorman _____|_____________________
|                                           | (1593 - 1640) m 1620                      
|                      _Zachariah Moorman __|
|                     | (1620 - 1702) m 1646|
|                     |                     |                      _____________________
|                     |                     |                     |                     
|                     |                     |_Ida Brading ________|_____________________
|                     |                       (1593 - 1620) m 1620                      
|_Sally Ann Moorman __|
  (1662 - ....) m 1680|
                      |                                            _William Candler ____+
                      |                                           | (1582 - 1608) m 1603
                      |                      _William Candler ____|_Hannah Fiske _______
                      |                     | (1608 - 1680) m 1625  (1580 - 1616)       
                      |_Mary Ann Candler ___|
                        (1625 - 1669) m 1646|
                                            |                      _____________________
                                            |                     |                     
                                            |_Elizabeth Burrell __|_____________________
                                              (1610 - 1625) m 1625                      

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[28323] [S211] Norvan L. Johnson

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Joan D'acre

[19640]

1433 - 8 Mar 1486

Family 1 : Richard Fiennes
  1. +John Fiennes

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[19640] [S166] Sharon Bearce

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William FitzAlan lord of Oswestry and Clun, Sheriff of Shropshire

[5700]

____ - 1212-13

Father: William Fitzalan
Mother: Isabel de Saye Baroness of Clun

Family 1 :
  1. +John Fitzalan lord of Oswestry and Clun, Sheriff of Shropshire

                                                                                                                     _______________________________________
                                                                                                                    |                                       
                                                                                      _Flaald FitzAlan _____________|_______________________________________
                                                                                     | (1046 - 1103)                                                        
                                   _ALAN Fitzflaald _________________________________|
                                  | (1078 - 1114) m 1104                             |
                                  |                                                  |                               _Gruffydd Griffith Ap Llewellyn _______+
                                  |                                                  |                              | (.... - 1063)                         
                                  |                                                  |_Nesta (Mary) Verch Gruffydd _|_Guerta of De Heubarth ________________
                                  |                                                    (1024 - ....)                  (1005 - ....)                         
 _William Fitzalan _______________|
| (1115 - 1164)                   |
|                                 |                                                                                  _______________________________________
|                                 |                                                                                 |                                       
|                                 |                                                   _Emulf (Arnulf) De Hesdin ____|_______________________________________
|                                 |                                                  |  m 1060                                                              
|                                 |_Aveline De Hesdin _______________________________|
|                                   (1081 - 1126) m 1104                             |
|                                                                                    |                               _______________________________________
|                                                                                    |                              |                                       
|                                                                                    |_Emmelina De Normandy ________|_______________________________________
|                                                                                      (1040 - ....) m 1060                                                 
|
|--William FitzAlan lord of Oswestry and Clun, Sheriff of Shropshire
|  
|                                                                                                                    _Robert FitzPicot de Saye Lord of Clun_+
|                                                                                                                   | (.... - 1098)                         
|                                                                                     _Henry de Saye, Lord of Clu __|_Adeloyes Unknown _____________________
|                                                                                    | (.... - 1121)                                                        
|                                  _Elias or Ingelgram (Ingram) de Saye Lord of Clun_|
|                                 | (.... - 1166)                                    |
|                                 |                                                  |                               _______________________________________
|                                 |                                                  |                              |                                       
|                                 |                                                  |______________________________|_______________________________________
|                                 |                                                                                                                         
|_Isabel de Saye Baroness of Clun_|
  (1141 - 1199)                   |
                                  |                                                                                  _______________________________________
                                  |                                                                                 |                                       
                                  |                                                   ______________________________|_______________________________________
                                  |                                                  |                                                                      
                                  |__________________________________________________|
                                                                                     |
                                                                                     |                               _______________________________________
                                                                                     |                              |                                       
                                                                                     |______________________________|_______________________________________
                                                                                                                                                            

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[5700] [S207] Stirnet.com

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Nathaniel Lewis

[12593] [12594]

1 Oct 1676 - 24 FEB 1750-1752

Father: William III Lewis
Mother: Mary Cheever

Family 1 : Abigail Ashley
  1. +Abigail Lewis
  2.  Nathaniel Lewis
  3.  Noadiah Lewis
Family 2 : Thankful Pomeroy

                             __
                            |  
                          __|__
                         |     
                       __|
                      |  |
                      |  |   __
                      |  |  |  
                      |  |__|__
                      |        
 _William III Lewis __|
| (1620 - 1690) m 1671|
|                     |      __
|                     |     |  
|                     |   __|__
|                     |  |     
|                     |__|
|                        |
|                        |   __
|                        |  |  
|                        |__|__
|                              
|
|--Nathaniel Lewis 
|  (1676 - ....)
|                            __
|                           |  
|                         __|__
|                        |     
|                      __|
|                     |  |
|                     |  |   __
|                     |  |  |  
|                     |  |__|__
|                     |        
|_Mary Cheever _______|
  (1640 - 1727) m 1671|
                      |      __
                      |     |  
                      |   __|__
                      |  |     
                      |__|
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[12593] [S765] Lloyd A. Horrocks (Horrocks.2@osu.edu)

[12594] [S166] Sharon Bearce

[12592] [S768] Gambell, Jim

[35388] [S768] Gambell, Jim

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Sarah Scullard

18 Jun 1645 - 1688

Father: Samuel Scullard
Mother: Rebecca Kent


                                                                   _____________________
                                                                  |                     
                                             _____________________|_____________________
                                            |                                           
                       _Robert Scullard ____|
                      | (1590 - 1617)       |
                      |                     |                      _____________________
                      |                     |                     |                     
                      |                     |_____________________|_____________________
                      |                                                                 
 _Samuel Scullard ____|
| (1616 - 1647) m 1641|
|                     |                                            _____________________
|                     |                                           |                     
|                     |                      _____________________|_____________________
|                     |                     |                                           
|                     |_Alice Scullard _____|
|                       (1575 - 1617)       |
|                                           |                      _____________________
|                                           |                     |                     
|                                           |_____________________|_____________________
|                                                                                       
|
|--Sarah Scullard 
|  (1645 - 1688)
|                                                                  _Richard Kent _______+
|                                                                 | (1543 - 1609)       
|                                            _Thomas Kent ________|_Elizabeth Unknown __
|                                           | (1550 - 1605) m 1585  (1534 - 1609)       
|                      _Richard Kent _______|
|                     | (1586 - 1654) m 1618|
|                     |                     |                      _Richard Pyle _______+
|                     |                     |                     | (1519 - 1605)       
|                     |                     |_Ellen Pyle _________|_____________________
|                     |                       (1560 - 1609) m 1585                      
|_Rebecca Kent _______|
  (1622 - 1684) m 1641|
                      |                                            _____________________
                      |                                           |                     
                      |                      _____________________|_____________________
                      |                     |                                           
                      |_Mary Drew __________|
                        (1586 - 1635) m 1618|
                                            |                      _____________________
                                            |                     |                     
                                            |_____________________|_____________________
                                                                                        

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Richard Sympkinson

[31389]

Sep 1561 - ____

Father: John Simkinson
Mother: Mary Smythe


                                                __
                                               |  
                                             __|__
                                            |     
                       _____________________|
                      |                     |
                      |                     |   __
                      |                     |  |  
                      |                     |__|__
                      |                           
 _John Simkinson _____|
| (1535 - 1562) m 1554|
|                     |                         __
|                     |                        |  
|                     |                      __|__
|                     |                     |     
|                     |_____________________|
|                                           |
|                                           |   __
|                                           |  |  
|                                           |__|__
|                                                 
|
|--Richard Sympkinson 
|  (1561 - ....)
|                                               __
|                                              |  
|                                            __|__
|                                           |     
|                      _William Smythe _____|
|                     | (1494 - 1560) m 1533|
|                     |                     |   __
|                     |                     |  |  
|                     |                     |__|__
|                     |                           
|_Mary Smythe ________|
  (1535 - 1567) m 1554|
                      |                         __
                      |                        |  
                      |                      __|__
                      |                     |     
                      |_ Unknown ___________|
                        (1505 - ....) m 1533|
                                            |   __
                                            |  |  
                                            |__|__
                                                  

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[31389] [S1120] www.wikitree.com

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Adelaide De Vermandois

[7992] [7993] [7994] [7995]

Abt 934-950 - 8 Apr 0976

Father: Robert Of Meux Of Troyes Vermandois
Mother: ADELAIDE De Challons, Burgundy

Family 1 : GEOFFREY I Grisconelle "Grisegonnelle" D'Anjou
  1. +Ermengarde Irmgard D'Anjou
  2. +Foulques III (Fulk) "the Black" D'Anjou
Family 2 : Lambert (D'Autun) Count De Chalons
  1.  Maude Countess Of Chalon-Sur-Saone

                                                                                                                                 _Pepin Seigneur II Of Peronne_______+
                                                                                                                                | (0817 - 0840)                      
                                                                                   _Herbert I Count Of Senlis __________________|____________________________________
                                                                                  | (0849 - ....)                                                                    
                                        _Herbert II Count of Troyes & Vermandois _|
                                       | (0885 - ....) m 0907                     |
                                       |                                          |                                              ____________________________________
                                       |                                          |                                             |                                    
                                       |                                          |_Beatrice (Bertha) De Paris De Morvois ______|____________________________________
                                       |                                            (0862 - ....)                                                                    
 _Robert Of Meux Of Troyes Vermandois _|
| (0920 - ....)                        |
|                                      |                                                                                         _Robert The Strong, Count of Paris _+
|                                      |                                                                                        | (.... - 0866) m 0864               
|                                      |                                           _ROBERT I Capet King Of France_______________|____________________________________
|                                      |                                          | (0865 - 0923)                                                                    
|                                      |_Liegarde (Hildebrande or Adela) Unknown _|
|                                        (0895 - 0931) m 0907                     |
|                                                                                 |                                              ____________________________________
|                                                                                 |                                             |                                    
|                                                                                 |_Adelaide Aelis d' D'ALSACE Queen Of France _|____________________________________
|                                                                                   (0870 - ....)                                                                    
|
|--Adelaide De Vermandois 
|  (.... - 0976)
|                                                                                                                                _Thierry II of Chaunois ____________
|                                                                                                                               | (.... - 0893)                      
|                                                                                  _Manassas I, Count Of Vergy _________________|____________________________________
|                                                                                 | (0860 - 0920)                                                                    
|                                       _GILBERT, Giselbert, Duke Of Vergy _______|
|                                      | (0890 - 0956)                            |
|                                      |                                          |                                              _Boso, King Of Burgundy ____________
|                                      |                                          |                                             |                                    
|                                      |                                          |_Ermengarde, Princess Of Burgundy ___________|____________________________________
|                                      |                                                                                                                             
|_ADELAIDE De Challons, Burgundy ______|
  (0905 - 0987)                        |
                                       |                                                                                         ____________________________________
                                       |                                                                                        |                                    
                                       |                                           _RICHARD, Duke Of Burgundy __________________|____________________________________
                                       |                                          | (0868 - 0921)                                                                    
                                       |_ERMENGARDE of Burgundy __________________|
                                         (0908 - ....)                            |
                                                                                  |                                              _Conrad II D'auxerre _______________+
                                                                                  |                                             | (0838 - 0862) m 0884               
                                                                                  |_ADELAIDE of Burgundy _______________________|_ERMENTRUDE of D'auxerre ___________
                                                                                    (0884 - 0929)                                 (0840 - ....)                      

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[7992] Also Known As:<_AKA> Adelaide de /Troyes/

Note: Turton names her Adelaide de Chalons, daughter of Thebault deChalons. I believe this is a mistake based on the name given by her marriage to her first husband, Lambert d'Auton, Count of Chalons.[jweberAUBREY.ged]

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The following was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann,curt_hofemann@yahoo.com:

Jim,

Actually it's even uglier than that. ES indicates that Geoffrey marriedAdelaide de Vermandois & upon her death, married her widowedmotherAdelaide de Burgundy, heiress of Chalons. It also states the same mother& dau also married Lambert, Comte de Chalon-sur-Saone, Vicomte de Dijon.

To see discussions of the absurdity of this go to google - groups -soc.genealogy.medieval & use keyword: grisgonelle

The following archived messages give agood synopsis of the problem:
Mardi Carter 26 Mar 1998
Jim Stevens 26 Mar 1998
Kenneth Harper Finton 26 Mar 1998
Christopher Nash 7 Jun 1998

To date I've not seen a definitive solution.

Regards,
Curt

Note: I have read someof the postings. They seem to indicate that Geoffrey m. this Adelaide (although she is sometimes named "Adele deDonzy" and possibly another Adelaide as well, and that this Adelaide may not have married Lambert d'Autun, Count of Chalons?). The part about the mother & daughter marrying the same people is (as it should be) discounted. ##check ancestry.[jweberALICE.ged]


The following was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann,curt_hofemann@yahoo.com:

Jim,

Actually it's even uglier than that. ES indicates that Geoffrey married Adelaide de Vermandois & upon her death, married her widowed motherAdelaide de Burgundy, heiress of Chalons. It also states the same mother& dau also married Lambert, Comte de Chalon-sur-Saone, Vicomte de Dijon.

To see discussions of the absurdity of this go to google - groups -soc.genealogy.medieval & use keyword: grisgonelle

The following archived messages give a good synopsis of the problem:
Mardi Carter 26 Mar 1998
Jim Stevens 26 Mar 1998
Kenneth Harper Finton 26 Mar 1998

[7993] [S228] Susan Cary

[7994] [S228] Susan Cary

[7995] [S166] Sharon Bearce

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