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______________________ | _____________________|______________________ | _Harry Fowler _______| | (.... - 1977) m 1928| | | ______________________ | | | | |_____________________|______________________ | _Ralph Fowler _______| | (1941 - 1971) m 1961| | | ______________________ | | | | | _Leo Mohringer ______|______________________ | | | m 1899 | |_Mildred Mohringer __| | (1908 - 1977) m 1928| | | _Samuel Henry Sawyer _+ | | | (1854 - 1938) m 1877 | |_Lela May Sawyer ____|_Margaret J Hale _____ | (1878 - 1925) m 1899 (1857 - ....) | |--Living | | ______________________ | | | _____________________|______________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | ______________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|______________________ | | |_Beverly Eneking ____| m 1961 | | ______________________ | | | _____________________|______________________ | | |_____________________| | | ______________________ | | |_____________________|______________________
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__ | __|__ | _John Bellomy _______| | (1700 - 1784) | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _John Bellamy _______| | (1735 - 1815) m 1768| | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |_Mary Hudson ________| | (1712 - 1784) | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Lucy Bellamy | (1776 - ....) | __ | | | __|__ | | | _William Roe ________| | | (1692 - 1753) | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Susan Rowe _________| (1738 - 1815) m 1768| | __ | | | __|__ | | |_Lucy Johnson _______| (1709 - 1789) | | __ | | |__|__
__ | __|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Edward B. Chandler _| | | | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Marietta Chandler | (1843 - 1930) | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Hannah Shields _____| | | __ | | | __|__ | | |__| | | __ | | |__|__
_____________________ | _____________________|_____________________ | _Michael Clarke _____| | (1629 - 1678) m 1652| | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | _Micajah Clark ______| | (1659 - 1706) m 1680| | | _____________________ | | | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | | |_Margaret Unknown ___| | (1633 - 1689) m 1652| | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | | |--Elizabeth Clark | (.... - 1760) | _____________________ | | | _Thomas Moorman _____|_____________________ | | (1593 - 1640) m 1620 | _Zachariah Moorman __| | | (1620 - 1702) m 1646| | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |_Ida Brading ________|_____________________ | | (1593 - 1620) m 1620 |_Sally Ann Moorman __| (1662 - ....) m 1680| | _William Candler ____+ | | (1582 - 1608) m 1603 | _William Candler ____|_Hannah Fiske _______ | | (1608 - 1680) m 1625 (1580 - 1616) |_Mary Ann Candler ___| (1625 - 1669) m 1646| | _____________________ | | |_Elizabeth Burrell __|_____________________ (1610 - 1625) m 1625
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_______________________________________ | _Flaald FitzAlan _____________|_______________________________________ | (1046 - 1103) _ALAN Fitzflaald _________________________________| | (1078 - 1114) m 1104 | | | _Gruffydd Griffith Ap Llewellyn _______+ | | | (.... - 1063) | |_Nesta (Mary) Verch Gruffydd _|_Guerta of De Heubarth ________________ | (1024 - ....) (1005 - ....) _William Fitzalan _______________| | (1115 - 1164) | | | _______________________________________ | | | | | _Emulf (Arnulf) De Hesdin ____|_______________________________________ | | | m 1060 | |_Aveline De Hesdin _______________________________| | (1081 - 1126) m 1104 | | | _______________________________________ | | | | |_Emmelina De Normandy ________|_______________________________________ | (1040 - ....) m 1060 | |--William FitzAlan lord of Oswestry and Clun, Sheriff of Shropshire | | _Robert FitzPicot de Saye Lord of Clun_+ | | (.... - 1098) | _Henry de Saye, Lord of Clu __|_Adeloyes Unknown _____________________ | | (.... - 1121) | _Elias or Ingelgram (Ingram) de Saye Lord of Clun_| | | (.... - 1166) | | | | _______________________________________ | | | | | | |______________________________|_______________________________________ | | |_Isabel de Saye Baroness of Clun_| (1141 - 1199) | | _______________________________________ | | | ______________________________|_______________________________________ | | |__________________________________________________| | | _______________________________________ | | |______________________________|_______________________________________
__ | __|__ | __| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _William III Lewis __| | (1620 - 1690) m 1671| | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |__| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Nathaniel Lewis | (1676 - ....) | __ | | | __|__ | | | __| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Mary Cheever _______| (1640 - 1727) m 1671| | __ | | | __|__ | | |__| | | __ | | |__|__
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Lloyd A. Horrocks (Horrocks.2@osu.edu)
_____________________ | _____________________|_____________________ | _Robert Scullard ____| | (1590 - 1617) | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | _Samuel Scullard ____| | (1616 - 1647) m 1641| | | _____________________ | | | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | | | |_Alice Scullard _____| | (1575 - 1617) | | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | | |--Sarah Scullard | (1645 - 1688) | _Richard Kent _______+ | | (1543 - 1609) | _Thomas Kent ________|_Elizabeth Unknown __ | | (1550 - 1605) m 1585 (1534 - 1609) | _Richard Kent _______| | | (1586 - 1654) m 1618| | | | _Richard Pyle _______+ | | | | (1519 - 1605) | | |_Ellen Pyle _________|_____________________ | | (1560 - 1609) m 1585 |_Rebecca Kent _______| (1622 - 1684) m 1641| | _____________________ | | | _____________________|_____________________ | | |_Mary Drew __________| (1586 - 1635) m 1618| | _____________________ | | |_____________________|_____________________
__ | __|__ | _____________________| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _John Simkinson _____| | (1535 - 1562) m 1554| | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |_____________________| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Richard Sympkinson | (1561 - ....) | __ | | | __|__ | | | _William Smythe _____| | | (1494 - 1560) m 1533| | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Mary Smythe ________| (1535 - 1567) m 1554| | __ | | | __|__ | | |_ Unknown ___________| (1505 - ....) m 1533| | __ | | |__|__
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www.wikitree.com
_Pepin Seigneur II Of Peronne_______+ | (0817 - 0840) _Herbert I Count Of Senlis __________________|____________________________________ | (0849 - ....) _Herbert II Count of Troyes & Vermandois _| | (0885 - ....) m 0907 | | | ____________________________________ | | | | |_Beatrice (Bertha) De Paris De Morvois ______|____________________________________ | (0862 - ....) _Robert Of Meux Of Troyes Vermandois _| | (0920 - ....) | | | _Robert The Strong, Count of Paris _+ | | | (.... - 0866) m 0864 | | _ROBERT I Capet King Of France_______________|____________________________________ | | | (0865 - 0923) | |_Liegarde (Hildebrande or Adela) Unknown _| | (0895 - 0931) m 0907 | | | ____________________________________ | | | | |_Adelaide Aelis d' D'ALSACE Queen Of France _|____________________________________ | (0870 - ....) | |--Adelaide De Vermandois | (.... - 0976) | _Thierry II of Chaunois ____________ | | (.... - 0893) | _Manassas I, Count Of Vergy _________________|____________________________________ | | (0860 - 0920) | _GILBERT, Giselbert, Duke Of Vergy _______| | | (0890 - 0956) | | | | _Boso, King Of Burgundy ____________ | | | | | | |_Ermengarde, Princess Of Burgundy ___________|____________________________________ | | |_ADELAIDE De Challons, Burgundy ______| (0905 - 0987) | | ____________________________________ | | | _RICHARD, Duke Of Burgundy __________________|____________________________________ | | (0868 - 0921) |_ERMENGARDE of Burgundy __________________| (0908 - ....) | | _Conrad II D'auxerre _______________+ | | (0838 - 0862) m 0884 |_ADELAIDE of Burgundy _______________________|_ERMENTRUDE of D'auxerre ___________ (0884 - 0929) (0840 - ....)
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Also Known As:<_AKA> Adelaide de /Troyes/
Note: Turton names her Adelaide de Chalons, daughter of Thebault deChalons. I believe this is a mistake based on the name given by her marriage to her first husband, Lambert d'Auton, Count of Chalons.[jweberAUBREY.ged]
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The following was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann,curt_hofemann@yahoo.com:
Jim,
Actually it's even uglier than that. ES indicates that Geoffrey marriedAdelaide de Vermandois & upon her death, married her widowedmotherAdelaide de Burgundy, heiress of Chalons. It also states the same mother& dau also married Lambert, Comte de Chalon-sur-Saone, Vicomte de Dijon.
To see discussions of the absurdity of this go to google - groups -soc.genealogy.medieval & use keyword: grisgonelle
The following archived messages give agood synopsis of the problem:
Mardi Carter 26 Mar 1998
Jim Stevens 26 Mar 1998
Kenneth Harper Finton 26 Mar 1998
Christopher Nash 7 Jun 1998
To date I've not seen a definitive solution.
Regards,
Curt
Note: I have read someof the postings. They seem to indicate that Geoffrey m. this Adelaide (although she is sometimes named "Adele deDonzy" and possibly another Adelaide as well, and that this Adelaide may not have married Lambert d'Autun, Count of Chalons?). The part about the mother & daughter marrying the same people is (as it should be) discounted. ##check ancestry.[jweberALICE.ged]
The following was contained in a post-em by Curt Hofemann,curt_hofemann@yahoo.com:
Jim,
Actually it's even uglier than that. ES indicates that Geoffrey married Adelaide de Vermandois & upon her death, married her widowed motherAdelaide de Burgundy, heiress of Chalons. It also states the same mother& dau also married Lambert, Comte de Chalon-sur-Saone, Vicomte de Dijon.
To see discussions of the absurdity of this go to google - groups -soc.genealogy.medieval & use keyword: grisgonelle
The following archived messages give a good synopsis of the problem:
Mardi Carter 26 Mar 1998
Jim Stevens 26 Mar 1998
Kenneth Harper Finton 26 Mar 1998