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Stirnet.com note:
The following shows connections reported by various web sites but are believed to be on the basis either of assumptions that sources such as BE1883 do not wish to make or of a misinterpretation of BE1883. For example, although it does seem that there was a Picot de Say(e) alive around the time of the Conquest, it seems that he was probably a cousin/kinsman rather than an ancestor of the William who married Agnes de Grentmesnil. Nevertheless we have decided to show this section not least to provide a link for the Isabel who married twice into families shown elsewhere in this database.
_____________________ | _____________________|_____________________ | _Walter Evans _______| | (1656 - 1721) m 1688| | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | _William Evans ______| | (1697 - 1766) m 1718| | | _____________________ | | | | | _Walter Powell ______|_____________________ | | | (1622 - 1695) m 1667 | |_Mary Powell ________| | (1669 - 1733) m 1688| | | _William Berry ______ | | | (1618 - 1676) m 1632 | |_Margaret Berry _____|_Margaret Bragge ____ | (1645 - 1679) m 1667 (1616 - 1645) | |--Walter Evans | (1723 - 1796) | _____________________ | | | _John White _________|_____________________ | | (1643 - 1685) | _William White ______| | | (1673 - 1708) | | | | _George Keyser ______ | | | | (1630 - ....) | | |_Sarah Keyser _______|_____________________ | | (1650 - 1696) |_Catherine White ____| (1700 - 1766) m 1718| | _____________________ | | | _Walter Powell ______|_____________________ | | (1622 - 1695) m 1667 |_Catherine Powell ___| (1678 - 1708) | | _William Berry ______ | | (1618 - 1676) m 1632 |_Margaret Berry _____|_Margaret Bragge ____ (1645 - 1679) m 1667 (1616 - 1645)
_John Fay _____________ | _John Fay ___________|_Elizabeth Wellington _ | (1699 - 1731) m 1720 _Jonathan Fay _______| | (1724 - 1800) m 1746| | | _______________________ | | | | |_Hannah Child _______|_______________________ | m 1720 _Jonathan Fay _______| | (1751 - 1811) m 1776| | | _______________________ | | | | | _____________________|_______________________ | | | | |_Joanna Phillips ____| | m 1746 | | | _______________________ | | | | |_____________________|_______________________ | | |--Samuel Prescott Phillips Fay | (1778 - 1856) | _Peter Bulkeley _______+ | | | _Jonathan Prescott __|_Rebecca Wheeler ______ | | (1676 - 1728) m 1700 | _Abel Prescott ______| | | (1718 - 1805) m 1742| | | | _______________________ | | | | | | |_Rebecca Bulkeley ___|_______________________ | | m 1700 |_Lucy Prescott ______| (1757 - 1792) m 1776| | _______________________ | | | _____________________|_______________________ | | |_Abigail Brigham ____| m 1742 | | _______________________ | | |_____________________|_______________________
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John was not named in his fathers will but was named in brother Thomas' will of 13 Nar, 1559. Thomas called him "brother John". John was likely to have been married by the time his father's will was made, and had received his portion of his father's estate earlier. This evidence suggests that John was the oldest child. Warren and Scarlett Ancestry in England The Warren-Scarlett ancestry in England is primarily based on the material presented in The Ancestry of Eva Belle Kempton 1878-1908: Part IThe Ancestry of Warren Francis Kempton 1817-1879, by Dean Crawford Smith and edited by Melinde Lutz Sanborn (Boston, 1996), pages 462-474.
The first wife of John is unknown; he married her by about 1550. She evidently died before 5 Sep 1563, when John married his second wife,Agnes/Ann Howlett.
John writes of "John my elder son", John my myddle son" and Richard. John's bequests implied that his sons had no children at the time his will was made.
REF: [1] The Warner-Harrington Ancestry - Frederick C. Warren, 1949(pg.720) [2] The New England Historic Genealogical Register, 1910(pgs.348-355) [3] Fifty Great Migration Colonists to New England & Their Origins - John B. Threlfall, 1990 (pgs.485-488) .
His estate in Nayland parish, Suffolk was called Corlie or Curlie.John's first wife's name is unknown; she was mother of John the Elder,John the Middle, Richard, and Stephen. He was married second on Dec. 10,1559 at Nayland to the widow Christian HINSON, by whom he had no children. John married third Sep. 5,1563, Nayland, Agnes HOWLET (bur.Nov. 25, 1567, Nayland), mother of Anne/Agnes. John was married fourth Jan. 30, 1568/9 at Great Horkesley, Margaret FIRMETT (bur. Apr. 19, 1576, Nayland), widow of Mr. COLE, who was mother of Margaret. John's will was made Apr. 21, 1576 and proved Jun. 5, 1576, naming brothers James and William as executors, children the two Johns, Richard, and Anne. The will also names John's step-children Agnes COLE and John COLE, children of his last wife.
_Richard Fitzalan Earl Of Arundel_______________+ | (1267 - 1302) _Edmund Fitzalan __________________________________|_Alice Of Saluzzo ______________________________ | (.... - 1326) (1271 - 1292) _Richard FitzAlan Earl Of Arundel 10th_| | (1313 - 1376) m 1321 | | | _William De Warenne ____________________________+ | | | (.... - 1286) | |_Alice De Warenne _________________________________|_Joan De Vere __________________________________ | (.... - 1293) _EDMUND FitzAlan ____| | (1327 - 1377) m 1349| | | _Hugh Le Despenser Earl Of Winchester___________+ | | | (1260 - 1326) m 1286 | | _Hugh The Younger Le Despenser, Lord Le Despenser _|_Isabella De Beauchamp _________________________ | | | (.... - 1326) m 1306 (.... - 1306) | |_Isabel Le Despenser __________________| | m 1321 | | | _Gilbert "The Red" De Clare Earl Gloucester 3rd_+ | | | (1243 - 1295) | |_Eleanor De Clare _________________________________|_Joan Plantagenet Of Acre_______________________ | (1292 - 1337) m 1306 (1272 - 1307) | |--Philippa FitzAlan | (.... - 1399) | ________________________________________________ | | | _Sir William De Montegu ___________________________|________________________________________________ | | (1280 - 1319) m 1300 | _William De Montagu ___________________| | | (1302 - ....) | | | | _Peter II de Montfort __________________________+ | | | | (.... - 1287) m 1262 | | |_Elizabeth De Montfort ____________________________|_Matilda (Maud) de la Ware Warr ________________ | | (.... - 1354) m 1300 |_Sibyl De Monticute _| (1330 - ....) m 1349| | ________________________________________________ | | | _William de Grandeson Lord Grandeson ______________|________________________________________________ | | (1255 - 1335) m 1285 |_Katherine De Grandison _______________| (1304 - 1349) | | _John de Tregoz Baron Tregoz____________________+ | | (1222 - 1300) |_Sybil de Tregoze _________________________________|_Mabel FitzWaren _______________________________ (1270 - 1334) m 1285 (1238 - 1297)
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http://www.gencircles.com/users/lknopke/1/data/01363.html
Co-heir - but her father had been bastardised.
CP in Vol I says she was dau of Richard FitzAlan and Isabel Despenser but in Vol X p.236 corrects this.
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Martha Irwin (marirw@yahoo.com)
_RICHARD Molyneux _______________+ | (1360 - ....) _RICHARD Molyneux ___|_ELLEN De Ursewick ______________ | (1396 - 1460) m 1422 (1364 - ....) _RICHARD Molyneux ___| | (1422 - 1459) | | | _GILBERT Haydock ________________+ | | | (1366 - ....) | |_JOAN Haydock _______|_SYBIL De Hoghton _______________ | (1397 - ....) m 1422 (1360 - ....) _John Molineaux _____| | (1455 - ....) | | | _John De Stanley ________________+ | | | (1386 - 1437) | | _Thomas Stanley _____|_Isabel Harrington ______________ | | | (1405 - ....) (1364 - ....) | |_ELIZABETH Stanley __| | (1410 - 1423) | | | _Robert Gousell Sir, Knight______ | | | m 1401 | |_Joan Goushill ______|_Elizabeth D'arundelle Fitzalan _ | (1409 - ....) (1366 - 1425) | |--Isabel Molineaux | (1495 - ....) | _________________________________ | | | _____________________|_________________________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | _________________________________ | | | | | | |_____________________|_________________________________ | | |_____________________| | | _________________________________ | | | _____________________|_________________________________ | | |_____________________| | | _________________________________ | | |_____________________|_________________________________
_____________________ | _____________________|_____________________ | _Richard Sears ______| | (1595 - 1676) m 1635| | | _____________________ | | | | |_____________________|_____________________ | _Paul Sears _________| | (1638 - 1707) m 1659| | | _____________________ | | | | | _George Jones _______|_____________________ | | | (1577 - 1626) | |_Dorothy Jones ______| | (1603 - 1678) m 1635| | | _____________________ | | | | |_Agnes UNKNOWN ______|_____________________ | (1578 - 1626) | |--Mary Sears | (1672 - 1745) | _Symon Willard ______+ | | (1530 - 1584) m 1557 | _Richard Willard ____|_Elizabeth Unknown __ | | (1569 - 1617) m 1610 (1532 - 1587) | _George Willard _____| | | (1614 - 1656) m 1644| | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |_Joan Unknown _______|_____________________ | | (1589 - 1617) m 1610 |_Deborah Willard ____| (1645 - 1721) m 1659| | _Henry Dunster ______ | | (1560 - 1610) m 1587 | _Henry Dunster ______|_ Unknown ___________ | | (1592 - 1635) (1560 - 1605) |_Dorothy Dunster ____| (1615 - 1650) m 1644| | _____________________ | | |_____________________|_____________________
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www.wikitree.com
__ | __|__ | ________________________| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | _Arthur Thompson ____| | (1628 - 1701) m 1660| | | __ | | | | | __|__ | | | | |________________________| | | | | __ | | | | |__|__ | | |--Mildred Thompson | (1655 - 1750) | __ | | | __|__ | | | _John Baptist Carberry _| | | | | | | __ | | | | | | |__|__ | | |_Susanna Carberry ___| (1638 - 1710) m 1660| | __ | | | __|__ | | |_Elizabeth Barber ______| | | __ | | |__|__
__________________________ | _______________________|__________________________ | __________________________| | | | | __________________________ | | | | |_______________________|__________________________ | _David Wemyss _______| | (1536 - 1596) m 1556| | | __________________________ | | | | | _______________________|__________________________ | | | | |__________________________| | | | | __________________________ | | | | |_______________________|__________________________ | | |--James Wemyss | (1560 - 1640) | _William Ruthven 1st Lord_+ | | (.... - 1528) | _William Ruthven ______|_Isabel Levington ________ | | (.... - 1513) | _William RUTHVEN 2nd Lord_| | | (1500 - 1552) m 1515 | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | |_Catherine Buttergask _|__________________________ | | |_Cecilia Ruthven ____| (1538 - 1589) m 1556| | __________________________ | | | _______________________|__________________________ | | |_Janet Halyburton ________| m 1515 | | __________________________ | | |_______________________|__________________________
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Ancestral File (TM)