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He[John de Verdun] married, 2ndly, before 1267, Eleanor (f). He is saidto have died 21 October 1274. His widow was living, 10 June 1278.[Complete Peerage XII/2:246-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
(f) Presumably his son Humphrey, b. on the vigil of Pentecost 1267, wasby the 2nd wife. Nothing is known of Eleanor's parentage but she may havebeen a Bohun. A seal, said to be hers, bears the Bohun and Verdun armsand the name of her son, Humphrey, may be significant.
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From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@msn.com)
Subject: Re: Eleanor de Verdun, and her daughter, Maud, wife of John deGrey, of Wilton
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-01-16 07:08:57 PST
Dear Newsgroup ~
Since making my post onEleanor (de Bohun) de Verdun yesterday, I'vechecked my files and found further confirmation which I believeconclusively proves that Eleanor was the daughter of Humphrey de Bohun(died 1275), Earl of Hereford and Essex. The evidence consists of twoseparate cases of consanguinity among descendants of Eleanor (de Bohun)de Verdun where they intermarried with their Bohun related kinfolk.
In the first instance, my notes record that there was a papaldispensation recorded in 1334, for the marriage of Maud de Grey and Johnde Lisle, 2nd Lord Lisle, of Rougement. As I recall, this dispensation ismentioned by Complete Peeragesub Lisle. Maud and John were stated to berelated in the 4th degree in their petition for a dispensation (i.e.,third cousins to each other). Maud de Grey was great-granddaughter ofEleanor (de Bohun) de Verdun. John de Lisle was great-grandson of Alice(de Bohun) de Tony.If the degree of kinship was correctly stated in thepapal registers, it wouldappear that Maud's ancestress, Eleanor de Bohun,and John's ancestress, Alice de Bohun, were sisters. Since Alice is knownto have been a daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex(died 1275), this in turn tells us that Eleanor was daughter of the sameHumphrey de Bohun.
In the second instance, my notes record there was a papal inquiry in 1334regarding the marriage of Margaret Basset and John de Bohun, Earl ofHereford and Essex. Margaret Basset wasa great-granddaughter of Eleanor(de Bohun)de Verdun. Margaret and her husband, John, were closelyrelated, but my notes don't tell how closely related the two partieswere, if the degree of kinship was stated. To resolve the question ofkinship, the Pope summoned a host of relatives of the young couple. Amongthose summoned were several of Margaret Basset's Grey relatives as wellas Alice de Tony, widow of Walter de Beauchamp, and her daughter andson-in-law, Margaret and Robert de Lisle. The people required to givetestimony presumably all hada tie to the Bohun family. If nothing else,this document provides added evidence that the Greys, Tonys, Beauchampsand Lisles all share a common descent from the Bohun family.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com
He [John de Verdun] married, 2ndly, before 1267, Eleanor (f). He is saidto have died 21 October 1274. His widow was living, 10 June 1278.[Complete Peerage XII/2:246-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
(f) Presumably his son Humphrey, b. on the vigil of Pentecost 1267, wasby the 2nd wife. Nothing is known of Eleanor's parentage but she may havebeen a Bohun. A seal, said to be hers, bears the Bohun and Verdun armsand the name of her son, Humphrey, may be significant.
From: Douglas Richardson (royalancestry@msn.com)
Subject: Re: Eleanor de Verdun, and her daughter, Maud, wife of John deGrey, of Wilton
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2002-01-16 07:08:57 PST
Dear Newsgroup ~
Since making my post on Eleanor (de Bohun) de Verdun yesterday, I'vechecked my files and found further confirmation which I believeconclusively proves that Eleanor was the daughter of Humphrey de Bohun(died 1275), Earl of Hereford and Essex. The evidence consists of twoseparate cases of consanguinity among descendants of Eleanor (de Bohun)de Verdun where they intermarried with their Bohun related kinfolk.
In the first instance, my notes record that there was a papaldispensation recorded in 1334, for the marriage of Maud de Grey and Johnde Lisle, 2nd Lord Lisle, of Rougement. As I recall, this dispensation ismentioned by Complete Peerage sub Lisle. Maud and John were stated to berelated in the 4th degree in their petition for a dispensation (i.e.,third cousins to each other). Maud de Grey was great-granddaughter ofEleanor (de Bohun) de Verdun. John de Lisle was great-grandson of Alice(de Bohun) de Tony. If the degree of kinship was correctly stated in thepapal registers, it would appear that Maud's ancestress, Eleanor deBohun, and John's ancestress, Alice de Bohun, were sisters. Since Aliceis known to have been a daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Herefordand Essex (died 1275), this in turn tells us that Eleanor was daughter ofthe same Humphrey de Bohun.
In the second instance, my notes record there was a papal inquiry in 1334regarding the marriage of Margaret Basset and John de Bohun, Earl ofHereford and Essex. Margaret Basset was a great-granddaughter of Eleanor(de Bohun) de Verdun. Margaret and her husband, John, were closelyrelated, but my notes don't tell how closely related the two partieswere, if the degree of kinship was stated. To resolve the question ofkinship, the Pope summoned a host of relatives of the young couple. Amongthose summoned were several of Margaret Basset's Grey relatives as wellas Alice de Tony, widow of Walter de Beauchamp, and her daughter andson-in-law, Margaret and Robert de Lisle. The people required to givetestimony presumably all had a tie to the Bohun family. If nothing else,this document provides added evidence that the Greys, Tonys, Beauchampsand Lisles all share a common descent from the Bohun family.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
E-mail: royalancestry@msn.com
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Directory of Royal Genealogical Data, maintained by Brian Tompset, University of Hull, UK. http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/pu
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He [Conan Duke of Brittany] married, in 1160, Margaret of Scotland,sister of MALCOLM IV, King of Scofland, and daughter of Henry, EARL OFHUNTINGDON, by Ada or Adeline, daughter of William (DE WARENNE), EARL OFSURREY. He died 20 February 1171. His widow married, 2ndly, before Easter1175, Humphrey DE BOHUN, Constable of England; she died in 1201, and was buried at Sawtrey Abbey, Hunts. [Complete Peerage X:791-3, XIV:545,(transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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Margaret of Scotland, dau. of Henry, Earl of Huntingdon, sister of William, King of Scots, and widow of Conan le Petit, Earl of Brittany and Richmond. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, London, 1883, p. 57, Bohun, Earls of Hereford, Earls of Essex, Earls of Northampton, and High Constables of England]
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