_______________________ | ________________________________________________________________________________|_______________________ | ______________________________________| | | | | _______________________ | | | | |________________________________________________________________________________|_______________________ | _Adolf I, Duke of Cleves _| | (1373 - 1448) | | | _______________________ | | | | | ________________________________________________________________________________|_______________________ | | | | |______________________________________| | | | | _______________________ | | | | |________________________________________________________________________________|_______________________ | | |--Catherine of Cleves | (1417 - 1479) | _______________________ | | | ________________________________________________________________________________|_______________________ | | | _John 'Intrepidus', Duke of Burgundy _| | | (1371 - 1419) m 1385 | | | | _______________________ | | | | | | |________________________________________________________________________________|_______________________ | | |_Marie de Bourgogne ______| (1393 - 1463) | | _Ludwig IV ____________+ | | (1282 - 1347) m 1324 | _Albrecht I, Duke of Bavaria-Straubing, Count of Holland, Seeland and Hainault _|_Margaret of Hainault _ | | (1336 - 1404) m 1353 (1311 - 1356) |_Margareta of Holland ________________| (1363 - 1423) m 1385 | | _______________________ | | |_Margaret of Brieg _____________________________________________________________|_______________________ m 1353
_Gilbert (Crispin) De Brionne ______________+ | (.... - 1040) m 1024 _RICHARD, 1st Earl de Clare FitzGilbert _|_Constance De Eu ___________________________ | (1024 - 1089) m 1054 (1009 - ....) _Gilbert FitzRichard De Clare __________| | (1065 - ....) m 1076 | | | _Walter "The Elder" Giffard ________________+ | | | (.... - 1084) m 1025 | |_Rohese Giffard _________________________|_Ermentrude Agnes Flaitel __________________ | (1034 - ....) m 1054 (1014 - ....) _Richard FitzGilbert De Clare _| | (.... - 1136) m 1115 | | | ____________________________________________ | | | | | _Hugh de Creil Count of Clermont ________|____________________________________________ | | | (1030 - 1101) m 1085 | |_Adeliza (Adelaide) De Clermont ________| | (1072 - 1117) m 1076 | | | _Hildouin IV De Roucy, Count of Montdidier _ | | | (.... - 1063) m 1031 | |_Margaret De Montdidier De Roucy ________|_Alice (Alix Adele, Adelaide) de Roucy _____ | (.... - 1110) m 1085 | |--Gilbert De Clare | (1115 - 1152) | _Ranulph (Ranulf) De Bayeux ________________ | | (1017 - 1047) | _Ranulf De Meschines ____________________|_Alice, Alix of Normandy ___________________ | | (1050 - 1129) m 1069 (1021 - ....) | _RANULPH "De Briquessart" De Meschines _| | | (1070 - ....) m 1072 | | | | _RICHARD "le Goz" De Avranches _____________+ | | | | (.... - 1084) m 1063 | | |_Maud De Avrances _______________________|_Emma de Burgh de Conteville _______________ | | (1054 - ....) m 1069 |_Alice "Adeliza" De Meschines _| (.... - 1142) m 1115 | | _Geoffrey II "Ferreol" Count of Gatinois ___+ | | (1000 - 1046) m 1035 | _Ives (Ivo) de Taillebois _______________|_Ermangarde (Hermengarde) D'Anjou __________ | | (1036 - 1094) m 1074 |_Lucy (Lucia) Taillebois _______________| (1074 - 1136) m 1072 | | _Uchtred ___________________________________ | | |_Lucia of Mercia ________________________|_Elfgifu Of England ________________________ (.... - 1136) m 1074
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GILBERT DE CLARE, Lord of Clare, &c., son and heir, born before 1115, wasat some date before 1142 [not improbably in 1138 when his uncle and namesake is supposed to have been created Earl of Pembroke], created Earl of Hertford. He died s.p., unmarried. [Complete Peerage III:244,(transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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GILBERT DE CLARE, generally known as LORD OF CLARE from his possession of that honour, was son and heir of Richard FITZGILBERT, LORD OF CLARE, &c.,by Adeliz (or Alice), sister of Ranulph (styled DE GERNON or DESGERNONS), EARL OF CHESTER, and daughter of Ranulph (styled LE MESCHIN),EARL OF CHESTER, by Lucy, widow, 1stly, of Ivo TAILLEBOIS and, 2ndly, of Roger FITZGEROLD. He succeeded his father in the great family estates (which, besides the honour of Clare, included Tonbridge Castle), 15 April1136, and was created, probably by King Stephen (?1138), EARL OFHERTFORD, He appears afterwards to have joined the Empress, because when in 1145 the King took the Earl of Chester prisoner, the said Earl gave his nephew as hostage for his liberation. The Earl of Hertford's wife isunknown : he is generally supposed not to have married. He died between1151 and 1153. [Complete Peerage VI:498-9, (transcribed by DaveUtzinger)]
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_Peter (Piers) FitzHerbert _____+ | (.... - 1235) m 1203 _Reginald Fitzpiers __________|_Alice De Warkworth Fitzrobert _ | (1210 - 1286) m 1260 _Peter FitzReginald Baron of Chewton _| | (.... - 1322) | | | _William De Vivonne ____________+ | | | (1225 - 1259) | |_Joan De Fortibus De Vivonne _|_Maud Or Matilda De Ferrers ____ | (1238 - 1314) m 1260 (1228 - 1298) _Herbert Fitzpeter __| | (1269 - ....) | | | ________________________________ | | | | | ______________________________|________________________________ | | | | |_Alice Broadspear ____________________| | (1256 - ....) | | | ________________________________ | | | | |______________________________|________________________________ | | |--Adam FitzHerbert | | ________________________________ | | | ______________________________|________________________________ | | | ______________________________________| | | | | | | ________________________________ | | | | | | |______________________________|________________________________ | | |_Margaret Walsh _____| (1270 - ....) | | ________________________________ | | | ______________________________|________________________________ | | |______________________________________| | | ________________________________ | | |______________________________|________________________________
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Adam, son of Herbert, lord of llanllywel and of Betesley, or Beachly, on the Severn, who m. Christian, dau and h of Gwaryn Ddu (the Dark), lord of Llandeilo, whose residence, Gwern Ddu, was sitmacted near Abergavenny, where the remains and name still exist, with a once celebrated well - and in the church of that twon is a stone figure representing a female, with the arms of Gwaryn Ddu upon it, believed to have been part of the tomb of Christian. [Annals and Antiquities of Wales II:776]
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Adam discarded the Fitz-Herbert and wrote his name Adam ap Reginald. Adam married Christian, daughter of 'the great Welshman," Gwarin Des of Gwern Ddu. Burke says, "Gwarin Dhu (Black Lord) of Gwarnddu or Gwernddu lived in great magnificence at Abergavenny."
Adam and Christian had three sons. The one that inherited the English property was knighted as Sir Thomas Herbert. The older one was, of course, Lord of Lan-Howel. The younger one was Jenkin ap Adam, Lord of Gwernddu and lived at Abergavenny (title and property from mother). [Genealogies of Virginia Families III:110]
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Adam FitzHerbert, Lord, by inheritance from his grandmother, of llanllowe, and of Bettwicy or Beachley. He m. Christian, dau. and heir of Gwarin Ddu, the "Black Lord" of Llandilo, a mansion of great magnificence near Abergavenny, afterwards designated Gwarinddu, now Wernddu, and by her had two sons. [Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, & Extinct Peerages 271]
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Note: It is unclear as to why he chose to be Adam ap Reginald, Adam ap Cynhaethwy, or Adam ap Reginald Cynhaethwy. Many sourced histories show that his father was named Herbert. He may have adopted the name of his great-grandfather because he was the first fuedal lord of the FitzHerberts to have holdings in Wales. This has caused a great deal of confusion as to his lineage. Burke's Peerage & Bartrum have his ancestry to Godwin and it is interesting to note that Alice verch Bletin (or Bleddin) Broadspeare, no matter who the souce, always falls in the lineage as paternal grandmother. The supposition has been made that Adam was trying to become "Welsh" and loose his Norman heritage at a time when the Welsh were in a great deal of upheaval. If this were the case, it has caused a great deal of misalignment of the lineage. What does seem to hold true about the lineage of Adam here is that (1) the Herbert's of Wales enjoyed a great deal of power under the English reign as well as (2) the FitzHerbert's who descended out of Herbert of Winchester - suggesting some sort of a tie, (3) the name itself, which in this lineage connection stopped with Adam, yet again appears as the surname of William, Earl of Pembroke, again suggesting a tie, (4) Herbert is not a name that is a name common to the Welsh or Britains - it is more common to the Normans.
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Following copied from Hulet Famiy Tree 27 authored by Joseph Jenkins , Updated 10-27-2004:
I originally, based on Turton, had William b. 947, d. 1037, and having children by his 990 marriage to Emma, who were born in 1015. This seems like a lot for a 68 year old man.
It turns out that the person born c 947 was Raymond who m. Adelaide (not Arsinde her sister), and had William III who m. Emma.
The way I have Raymond's parentage is the simplest. There is an alternative being debated, which has Raymond as son of Raymond, son of Raymond, son of Ermengaud Vicomte de Rouergue, b. c 860, who I have as his great uncle (Raymond II's younger brother).
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