_John Erskine __________________________________+ | (1249 - ....) _William Erskine _________|________________________________________________ | (1274 - 1331) _Robert Erskine _______________________| | (1310 - 1385) m 1335 | | | ________________________________________________ | | | | |__________________________|________________________________________________ | _Thomas Erskine _____| | (1340 - 1404) | | | _David De Lindsay Regent Of Scotland____________+ | | | (1235 - 1279) m 1266 | | _Alexander De Lindsay Sir_|_Margaret De Lindsay ___________________________ | | | (1267 - 1308) (1247 - 1274) | |_Beatrix de Lindsay ___________________| | (1291 - ....) m 1335 | | | _Alexander Stewart 4th High Steward of Scotland_+ | | | (.... - 1283) | |_Unknown Stewart _________|_Jean of Argyl MacRory _________________________ | (1224 - ....) | |--Robert 1st Lord Erskine | (1368 - 1452) | _John De Keth Marshal Of Scot___________________+ | | (1212 - 1270) m 1235 | _William De Keith ________|_Margaret Cumyn ________________________________ | | (1231 - 1271) m 1261 (1217 - ....) | _Edward De Keith Marischal Of Scotland_| | | (1280 - 1346) | | | | _Adam de Seton _________________________________+ | | | | | | |_Barbara de Seton ________|_Jane Gifford __________________________________ | | (1216 - ....) m 1261 |_Janet Keith ________| (1350 - 1413) | | ________________________________________________ | | | __________________________|________________________________________________ | | |_Christian Menteith ___________________| | | ________________________________________________ | | |__________________________|________________________________________________
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Stirnet.com note:
Sir Robert claimed the earldom of Mar through his mother's mother's mother Elyne/Elen, daughter of Gartney/Gratney, Earl of Mar. The claim was not formally accepted until the time of John, 6th Lord Erskine. Even then, however, there was uncertainty as to whether or not the identification of that lord as Earl of Mar was acceptance of his family's longstanding claim or a new appointment. The intervening lords are nevertheless sometimes referred to as 'de jure Earls of Mar'.
There is some confusion regarding the identity of Sir Robert's wife. We show both of the alternatives and point out that he may have married first one then the other. We show that but stress that this is an assumption. The precedence amongst the Erskine records to naming the Stewart daughter before Elizabeth Lindsay suggests (but does not prove) that Robert's heir was born by that Stewart.
As noted above, there is some confusion regarding the identity of Sir Robert's wife. According to TSP (Mar), dispensation for the marriage between Janet and Walter Stewart was obtained because they were related in the 3rd degree which supports the view that she was daughter of Elizabeth Lindsay. As it is another assumption that Janet was born after Thomas and 'hence' that Elizabeth was Sir Robert's second rather than first wife, there is no indication as to who was the mother of Christian or Elizabeth.
_____________________ | __________________________|_____________________ | _William Henry Lawrence _| | (1842 - 1926) m 1881 | | | _____________________ | | | | |__________________________|_____________________ | _John W. Lawrence ___| | (1838 - 1950) m 1908| | | _____________________ | | | | | _Leander Alexander Parks _|_____________________ | | | (1819 - 1907) m 1848 | |_Mary Melvina Parks _____| | (1854 - 1950) m 1881 | | | _Andrew Henderson ___+ | | | (1791 - 1823) m 1811 | |_Emily Louisa Henderson __|_Mary (Polly) Maben _ | (1817 - 1893) m 1848 (1794 - ....) | |--Harley Elvin Lawrence | (1914 - 1989) | _____________________ | | | __________________________|_____________________ | | | _________________________| | | | | | | _____________________ | | | | | | |__________________________|_____________________ | | |_Edith May Clark ____| m 1908 | | _____________________ | | | __________________________|_____________________ | | |_________________________| | | _____________________ | | |__________________________|_____________________
[17884] One Of Lancaster's Party In Rebellion Against Edward II
__________________________ | _Joseph H Steel ____________|__________________________ | (1819 - 1890) m 1857 _James A. Steele ____| | (1862 - 1893) m 1880| | | _James Luther Johnson Sr._+ | | | (1800 - 1882) m 1822 | |_Therrissa Zenobia Johnson _|_Hannah Watson ___________ | (1829 - 1913) m 1857 (1794 - 1875) _Hosea Steele _______| | (1900 - 1957) m 1902| | | __________________________ | | | | | _Thomas Keene ______________|__________________________ | | | | |_Mary Ann Keene _____| | (1861 - 1905) m 1880| | | __________________________ | | | | |_Rachel Yoder ______________|__________________________ | | |--Verna Vivian Steele | (1902 - ....) | __________________________ | | | ____________________________|__________________________ | | | _____________________| | | | | | | __________________________ | | | | | | |____________________________|__________________________ | | |_Zie Minnie Pope ____| (1880 - 1961) m 1902| | __________________________ | | | ____________________________|__________________________ | | |_____________________| | | __________________________ | | |____________________________|__________________________
_William de Moravia 1st Earl of Sutherland_+ | _William, 2nd Earl of Sutherland _|___________________________________________ | (.... - 1307) _Kenneth, 4th Earl of Sutherland _| | (.... - 1333) | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | |__________________________________|___________________________________________ | _Nicholas Sutherland of Duffus_| | | | | _William, 5th Earl of Mar _________________ | | | | | _Donald, 6th Earl of Mar _________|_Elizabeth Comyn __________________________ | | | (.... - 1297) (1223 - 1267) | |_Marjory\Mary of Mar _____________| | | | | _Llywelyn 'the Great', Prince of Wales ____ | | | (1173 - 1240) m 1200 | |_Helen of Wales __________________|_Tangwystyl Goch __________________________ | | |--Henry Sutherland of Torboll | (.... - 1434) | _William de Moravia 1st Earl of Sutherland_+ | | | _William, 2nd Earl of Sutherland _|___________________________________________ | | (.... - 1307) | _Kenneth, 4th Earl of Sutherland _| | | (.... - 1333) | | | | ___________________________________________ | | | | | | |__________________________________|___________________________________________ | | |_Mary or Marjory le Cheyne ____| | | _William, 5th Earl of Mar _________________ | | | _Donald, 6th Earl of Mar _________|_Elizabeth Comyn __________________________ | | (.... - 1297) (1223 - 1267) |_Marjory\Mary of Mar _____________| | | _Llywelyn 'the Great', Prince of Wales ____ | | (1173 - 1240) m 1200 |_Helen of Wales __________________|_Tangwystyl Goch __________________________
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