Thomas Burgess

[23650] [23651] [23652]

16 Aug 1601 - 13 Feb 1684

Family 1 : Dorothy (Waynes ?) Phippen
  1. +John Burgess
  2. +Elizabeth Burgess
  3.  Jacob Burgess

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[23650] Burgess Genealogy, by K. W. Hiam, 1997, pub by the NEHGS pg 1:


"The Immigrant: Thomas Burgess of Sandwich, Massachusetts" Thomas, the immigrant, is sometimes thought to have come to Salem, Massachusetts, with his wife, Dorothy, andhis young family in 1630. A stone set by the grave of John Burgess, Jr. (John, Joseph, John, Thomas) in Center Cem., Rochester, reads 'Descendant of Thomas Burgess the pilgrim who landed at Salem 1630' ... A land record dated July3, 1637, shows that he [Thomas] forfeited acreage assigned him at Duxbury, in order to settle the same year at Sandwich. There, he and his family lived at the western end of town, which later became part of the township of Bourne, in the area now called Sagamore. He became a large landowner in Sandwich and serve the town in many capacities.


Thomas, his wife Dorothy, their only daughter, Elizabeth (Burgess) Perry, and her husband, Ezra Perry, are buried quite close together near the brow of the hill in the Old Burying Ground on Grove Street in Sandwich.

Ancestors of American Presidents, by Gary Boyd Roberts, Published by Carl Boyer III, 1995, Santa Clara CA.:

Page 44, line 220:

8th generation grandparents and ancestor with wife Dorothy Waynes of Rutherford Birchard Hayes, 19th President of the United States. Through son John Burgess.

page 275:

11th generation grandparents and ancestor with wife Dorothy Waynes of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President of the United States. Through daughter Elizabeth Burgess.

THE BURGESS HISTORY TREE by Paul F. Burgess. Genealogy Publishing Service, Franklin, North Carolina. 1993:

Thomas Burgess arrived with his wife in Salem, Massachusetts, in 1630, at the age of 27, and remained for a time in the adjoining community of Lynn, about ten milesnortheast of Boston. (They are believed to have arrived on the ship 'The Blessing of the Bay'.) A section of land was assigned to him, 3 July 1637, in Duxbury, 30 miles south of Boston; but in the same year there appeared on the map, 64 miles south of Boston, the township of Sandwich, in the colony of Plymouth, to which he moved the following year, making his permanent abode in that section of the township which has come to be known as Sagamore... He was one of the original eleven male members of the first Congregational Church in Sandwich and was known among his contemporaries as "Goodman Burgess." Abridged Compendium by Frederick Virkus, pg 970:

BURGESS, Thomas (1603-85), from Eng. to Salem, Mass., ca. 1630; settled at Sandwich, 1637;

was an original mem. of the church there, and dep. Gen. Ct., 1646, et seq.; m Dorothy -----.

From Bill Burgess' home page, "The Burgess Family & Genealogy" http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~burgessgen/:

Burial Notes: His grave was honored by amonumental slab imported from England. "This was the only monument set up for any Pilgrim of the first generation." (Otis) The stones of Thomas and Dorothy were restored by descendants in 1917 and in 1994 were called "marvelously legible." The cemetery is situated almost directly across the mill pond fromthe Thornton W. Burgess (Jr.) Museum.

General Notes: DOUBTFUL THOMASES THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE, DOUBTFUL THOMASES, WAS PREPARED BY COUSIN JOE BURGESS, OREGON, USA., AND THE COMPILER OF THIS WEB SITE IS GRATEFUL FOR THIS OUTSTANDING CONTRIBUTION

"Thomas and Dorothy Burgess and their young family came from Cornwall, England in (or not far from) 1630 and settled in Lynn (or Salem), Massachusetts Bay Colony." All Burgess researchers have seen similar statements -and some have accepted part or all as fact. Our purpose in this article is to question (and perhaps generate some discussion about) the Cornwall origin, but first let us look briefly at the supposed arrival date of the Burgess family in New England. "I do not know who was the first one responsible for the assertion that Thomas came to these shores abou

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Roger III Standardbearer of Normandy, de Toeni

[39261] [39262] [39263] [39264]

1104 - Bef FEB 1161-1162

Father: Ralph de Conches de Toeni
Mother: Alice (Judith) De Huntington

Family 1 : IDA (Gertrude) De Hainault
  1. +Ralph V "de Conches" de Toeni
  2. +Godeheut (Godad Goda) de Toeni

                                                                                                            _Ralph II Seigneur De Toeni Lord of Conches_+
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                                                                  _Roger I "Spainiard" De Toeni Conches____|_Unknown of Balso De Bayeux ________________
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                                 _Ralph de Conches de Toeni _____|
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                                |                                |                                          _RAYMOND Borrell I of Barcelona ____________+
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                                |                                |_Godehilde\Adelaida Borrell _____________|_Ermensinde of Carcassonne _________________
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 _Ralph de Conches de Toeni ____|
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|--Roger III Standardbearer of Normandy, de Toeni 
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|                                _Waltheof, EARL of Northumbria _|
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|                               |                                |_Aelfled (Elfleda) of Bernicia __________|_AELGIFU (Elifgifu) Queen Of England _______
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|_Alice (Judith) De Huntington _|
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[39261] Roger, called de Toeni or de Conches; born probably c1104; married Ida,daughter of Baldwin III, Count of Hainault, and died between autumn 1157and the beginning of 1162. [Burke's Peerage]

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ROGER DE TOENI III, styled also DE CONCHES, 1st son and heir, was bornprobably about 1104, and succeeded his father about 1126. In 1131 heattested Henry I's pancarte confirming all the grants of his ancestorsand himself and others to the abbey of Conches. He is said to have wagedwar with Hugh de Chateauneuf in 1133. In 1135 the King suspected that hewas preparing to rebel, together with William Talvas, Count of Ponthieu,on behalf of Henry's son-in-law, Geoffrey Plantagenet, and sent his ownsoldiers to garrison the castle of Conches. After the King's death Rogersupported Geoffrey and his wife the Empress Maud against Stephen. AfterEaster 1136 hostilities began between him and the King's generals, thetwins Waleran, Count of Meulan, and Robert, Earl of Leicester; and civilwar raged in May and June. In the autumn the fighting flared up again;but on 3 October Roger was ambushed and captured by Count Waleran andHenry de la Pommeraye. His land was laid under an interdict and he waskept in prison for more than 6 months, butwas released in 1137. In May1138 he was attacked by the Count of Meulan and William d'Ypres, butdefended himself successfully; and on 7 September he captured Breteuiland burnt the town. However, before the end of 1138 he made peace withthe twin Earls, who conducted him to England, where he was reconciled toKing Stephen. Nothing is known of what happened to his English landsduring this period. In 1150 or 1151 he was with Henry, Duke of Normandy,at Rouen. After Henry had become King, Roger enjoyed the royal favour;for between Michaelmas 1157and Michaelmas 1158 the King granted him 100solidates of land at Holkham, Norfolk. He was a benefactor to the abbeysof la NoŽ, Conches and Bec.

He married Ida, daughter of BALDWIN III, COUNT OF HAINAULT, by Yolande,daughter of Gerard, COUNT OF GUELDERS. With her he had in marriage fromHenry 120 librates ofland out of the royal demesne at East Bergholt,Suffolk. He died after Michaelmas 1157 and probably before 1162.[Complete Peerage XII/1:763-4, (transcribedby Dave Utzinger)]


Following copied from soc.genealogy.medieval newgroup:

From: Paul C. Reed (reedpcgen@aol.com)
Subject: Idenity of Countess Ida revisited [2nd try]
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2000/01/06

Roger de Toeni [the third of that name, or III] was born ca. 1104, anddied afterMichaelmas 1157, presumably before his son died in 1162. Hemarried Ida of Hainault, daughter of Baldwin III, Count of Hainault, byhis wife Yolande de Guelders. It is not known when Ida died, but shepresumably survived him, as Henry II granted her [Ida de Tounay] land atGarsington, co. Oxford [Rot. Hund.].

This couple had four known sons:
(1) Ralph de Toeni [V], who succeeded his father and died 1262/3, havingmarried Margaret de Beaumont.
(2) Roger de Toeni, Jr., dead by 1185, when his wife Ade/Alda de Chaumontwas holding land at Holkington, co. Norfolk, of her son Baldwin de Toeni[II] (1170-1216), Seigneur deAcquigny, apparently father of Roger deAkeny and Sir William Dakeny [Acquigny]. The Rotuli de Dominabus statesthat Ade/Alda was born about 1155, and that she had five daughters asidefrom her son Baldwin. [Does anyone have any Dakeny ancestry?]
(3) Baldwin de Toeni, who settled in Hainault [having resided withhisuncle Baldwin IV], where he died in 1170, leaving issue.
(4) Geoffrey deToeni, a cleric who flourished 1157-62, 1177.


Two daughters have also been mentioned before:

1) Goda (c1136-) m Walchieline de Ferrers

2)Godeheutde Toeni (-<1186) m William de Mohun (<1143-1176); Of Dunster;s
of William by Agnesde Gaunt. They left Agnes and Yolante

[Latter posting on daughters from Adrian Channing, 10 Jan 2000]

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Gospatrick, 3rd Earl of Dunbar Earl of Lothian

[44921]

____ - 1166

Father: Gospatric, 2nd Earl Of Dunbar
Mother: Sybil Morel

Family 1 : Derdere Unknown
  1. +Waldeve, 4th Earl of Dunbar Earl of Lothian

                                                                                      _Crinan The Thane ____________________
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                                                         _Maldred Lord Of Allendale _|_Bethoc Of Scotland __________________
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                                  _Gospatrick I Dunbar _|
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                                 |                      |_Ealdgyth Unknown __________|_Elfgifu Of England __________________
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 _Gospatric, 2nd Earl Of Dunbar _|
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|--Gospatrick, 3rd Earl of Dunbar Earl of Lothian
|  (.... - 1166)
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|_Sybil Morel ___________________|
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GORMFLAITH Ingen Murchada Mac Finn

[29359]

ABT 0950 - 1030

Father: Murchad Mas Finn, King of Leinster
Mother: Connacht

Family 1 : Brian (Boru) Boroimhe King Of Ireland
  1.  Donnchad Ua Briain
  2. +SLANI of Ireland
Family 2 : OLAF Kvaaran King Of Dublin
  1. +SIHTRIC "Silken Beard" Olafsson King Of Dublin

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|--GORMFLAITH Ingen Murchada Mac Finn 
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[46223] 2nd Husband 2nd Wife

[46222] 1st Husband

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Mary Porter Mills

[23985] [23986]

ABT 1590 - ____

Family 1 : WILLIAM Post
  1. +MARY Post

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[23985] Children:
Mary POST b: 1616 in Chesterton,Huntingdonshire,England

[46086] Marriage to William POST b: ABT 1583 in Chesterton, Huntingdonshire, England
Married: ABT 1614 in England

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