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The following is excerpted from a post to SGM, 5 Feb 2004, by RosieBevan, concerning Keats-Rohan's entries of Roger & his father Robert:
From: rosie bevan (rbevan@paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Ancestry of Agnes de Condet/Cundy, wife of Walter deClifford
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2004-02-05 00:17:33 PST
Dear Jim
The following entries are from Domesday Descendants p.425
de Cundet, Roger II
Son of Robert de Condé and Alice (of Chester), a minor at his father's death c.1141. Nephew of Roger de Cundy, clerk of Roger de Mowbray in the1140s and 1150s. Held 8 knights' fees of the bishop of Lincoln in 1166.Steward of Roger de Mowbray in 1174 or 1175. Attested Mowbray chartersfrom c.1150/54, when Robert de Cundet, probably his younger brother, also starts to witness. He held half a fee, in scattered estates at Axholme, Lincolnshire, Burton Lazars, Leicestershire, Eltisley, Cambridgeshire,Great and Little Wildon and Bagby, Yorkshire, from the honour of Mowbrayin 1166. Benefactor of Newburgh (Mowbray Ch., 205, 212). He was dead in1201, when his heir was his daughter Agnes, wife of Walter Clifford,ancestor of the earls of Cumberland.
[Cf. Major Lincs. Reg. Antiq. i pp.282ff. Clay, Early Yorkshire Charters(1936), V, nos 160,385; Clay, Early Yorkshire Charters (1952), IX, nos115, 125, 146, 153, 167; Clay, Early Yorkshire Charters (1955), XII, no.111; Greenway, Charters of the Honour of Mowbray (1972), no.22, 34, 40,50, 55, 99, 105, 108, 159, 168, 197, 205, 240, 244, 296, 301, 351, 353,354, 359, 371, 383, 396, 399; Red Book of the Exchequer, ed. Hall (1897),pp.418-21.]
In the Domesday Book Caenby was referred to as Covenebi. Both Grantham(sic. later changed to Glentham) and Caenby were part of the Bishop of Lincoln's fee at that time.
Cheers
Rosie
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This post by Rosie Bevan, supports the connection with Roger's grandmother Adelaide de Chesney:
From: rosie bevan (rbevan@paradise.net.nz)
Subject: Re: Ancestry of Agnes de Condet/Cundy, wife of Walter deClifford
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2004-02-05 17:57:21 PST
Thanks, Tim and Peter
Yes, this is another for the DD corrections pages. Sorry I should havespotted that error myself.
Richard fitz Gilbert de Clare (d. 1136) was the husband of Alice, and the son of Gilbert fitz Richard. His biography is found on p.398/399. Alsocovered in CP III p.243.
Regarding the Chesney connection Roger de Cundi held 9 fees from the Bishop of Lincoln in 1166, but in 1169 William de Chesney was holdingthese as ward of the heir of Roger. Roger had been a benefactor to Eynsham abbey of land in Milton near Thame [Salter, Eynsham Cartulary v.1p.113], which perhaps ties William de Chesney of Glentham and Caenby(also holding of the bishop of Lincoln), in with the Oxfordshire family of Roger de Chesney and Alice de Langetot, benefactors to the same religious house. Adding weight to this suggestion is the fact that Robertde Chesney, son of Roger and Alice, was bishop of Lincoln between1148-1166 [DD 833; Fasti Ecclesiae Anglicanae v.2 p.8], and would havebeen an active benefactor to his own family.
Cheers
Rosie
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