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Also Known As:<_AKA> Roger de /Todeni/, Lord of Guerny
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Roger de Toeni, also called Roger de Conches; fought Muslims in Spain;married 1st? Stephanie (m. 2nd Garsias, King of Spain) sister of RaymondBerenger, Count of Barcelona; married 2nd ? Godeheut (m. 2nd Richard, 3rdCount of Evereux), and died 1038 or 1039 in battle against a neighboringnoble whose territory he had over run in a revolt against the successionof William I the Conqueror to his father's Norman possessions on thegrounds that William was illegitimate. [Burke's Peerage]
According to BP, Roger married two different women as 1st husband, bothmarried later husbands. There is no explanation given. Did the firstmarriage end in divorce? As stated above, I am treating the women as thesame person.
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ROGER DE TOENI I, styled also DE CONCHES, son and heir, was born probablyabout 990, for as stated above he was joined with his father in thecustody of the castle of Tillières in 1013 or 1014. He was a powerful andhaughty man, and banner-bearer of all Normandy. In 1031 or 1032 heattested a charter of Robert I for St. Wandrille. About 1035 hefoundedthe abbey of Chatillon or Conches. While Duke Robert was away onpilgrimage, he went to Spain and distinguished himself in fighting theinfidels (b). When he returned to Normandy, he was furious to learn thatthe boy William had succeeded his father in the Duchy, declaring that abastard ought not to rule over him and other Normans. Accordingly herebelled and ravaged the lands of his neighbours, particularly those ofHumphrey de Vieilles; whose son Roger de Beaumont marched against him,and in the battle which followed Roger de Toeni and two of his sons wereslain. He was a benefactor to the abbey of I'Estrée and confirmed a giftto the abbey of Lire, and witnessed a charter for Jumièges. He married,perhaps 2ndly,[g] Godeheut, whose parentage is unknown. He died as above,probably in 1038 or 1039, and was buried 1 May at Conches. His widowmarried Richard, 3rd COUNT OF EVREUX. She was a benefactor to Conches.[Complete Peerage XII/1:755-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
(b) Will. de Jumieges, p. 157---by Orderic. In consequence he was styledsometimes Roger of Spain (Orderic, vol i,p. 180; vol iii, p. 338), orRoger the Spaniard (Idem, vol ii, p. 64). However, if the Roger, son ofCount Rodulf (cf, p. 755, note "a" above), who according to the SensChron. led an army from Normandy to Spain, can be identified withRoger deToeni, he is said to have gone there at a much earlier date; and afterdefeating the Saracens, is said to have married a Spanish woman andlivedthere for 15 years. Then owing to the treachery of the natives helost most of hismen and, leaving his wife in Spain, he returned toNormandy; where he made a concord with Duke Richard, who was displeasedat the loss of his army. Afterwards Roger was killed, fighting against acertain neighbor (Rec. des Hist. de France, vol x, p. 223). This Roger'sfeats in Spain are recorded also by Ademar, who calls him simply Roger,and does not say how long he stayed there (Idem, p.156). No other Normanthan Roger de Toeni seems to be known, who could be identified with thehero of these stories. Cf. Prentout, op. cit., p. 86. See also p. 755,note (a) above and note (g) below. See "Tony of Belvoir", Charles Evans,"Geneal. Mag.", vol 15, 1968, pp. 616-18. [last sentence, referencingCharles Evans, added by CP XIV:613]
[g] Roger, son of Count Rodulf (see note "b" above), married, in Spain,Stephanie, sister of Raymond Berenger; whichlady afterwards m. Garsias,King of Spain (Rec. des Hist. de France, vol x, p.223). This agrees withthe statement of Ademar,
With his father, he was given partial custody of the castle of Tillieresin 1013/14. He was a haughty and powerful man--the banner bearer of allNormandy. He founded the abbey of Conches i n 1035. While duke Robertwas away on pilgrimage, Roger went to Spain and had a distinguishedcareer fighting the infidel there. While in Spain, he married, eitherEtienette of Barcelona or, according to later research, Adelaide ofBarcelona. He left her behind when, due to the treachary of some of thenatives, he had to leave Spain.When he returned to Normandy, he was furious to learn that the boy William has succeeded his father as Du ke,declaring that a bastard ought not rule over himand other Normans. Rogerimmediately rebelled, ravaging the lands of his neighbors, particularythose of Humphrey De Vielles. Humphrey' s son, Roger de Beaumont, killedRoger and two of his sons in battle in 1038/39.
There has long been controversy regarding Roger's wife/wives. Roger wasexiled, and ended up "crusading" in and around Barcelona. Sources fromthat area report that he married an unnamed daughter of the countess ofBarcelona (widow of Ramon Borrell). Norman sources only show him marriedto a Godeheut, who as his widow remarried. Was Adelaide/Adele his firstwife and Godeheut his second? Was Godeheut the Norman name for theBarcelona princess?
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